K46 vs k58 As you all know the Tuff Torq K46 transaxle has problems. But the K46 lacks the durability of heavier models like the TL-200, and is best suited for flat properties with lighter demands. The K46 is basically a throw-away transaxle, while the K57 can be serviced to provide a longer life. Given all the negative talk about the K46, I can't believe this is the original transmission in the mower. The k58 would probably work better. The K66 has 1" axles like the K58, so more things to buy. The T40 is the only one that is a bolt on project. They downgraded the transmission in 2008 from the k58 to the k46 I would have upgraded to a heavier machine and tranny but I can only fit a 42 inch deck through my gate and I have 30 degree hills on my 1 1/2 acre yard. All are specifically produced for a particular tractor that they are installed in. L120 Silver Member. A diff-lock option is available. Is the K46. 2WD; it's a K91G 2WD from 425 through X750. K57 The KS7 is the o' the unit Adding optóns like a charge pump. But I don't expect it to last that long pulling a plow. X3xx have the K58 and K46. The Simplicity Broadmoor use's the K57 which is the same tractor as the Snapper LT300. tries to solve the problems of Re: K57 vs K58 vs K66 A charge pump ensures no cavitation in the pump/motor under harder use. Tuff Torq T40 vs Tuff Torq K46. The Husq has w/K66 would work too, but the tractor itself lacks over the X320. The question is can I install a k58 in place of my k46 tuff torq in a 2008 x300 John Deere. 1998 John Deere 345 1993 John Deere 320. I wouldn't say our yard is hilly, but it has a decent slope from the road up to the house, maybe 20 degrees, then flatter in the back. TL-200 is the weakest. Sorry to say it, but the k46 has absolutely no chance at pulling a plow through the earth. The dealer that The K58 is basically a beefed up K46, it has 1" axles, and a charge pump, pretty much the same small case as the K46. TZ-400 . The Snapper might only be 8hp and have a small deck but it was designed to last several decades as it has done. Anybody who K46 This is the and prolific unit the Residential this transaxle is a proven winner. Rated torque K46 171 ft lb K58 217 ft lb The K58 has 1" axle shafts vs 3/4" axles on K46. I don't think it's as heavy duty as the K62, but the K58 will be fine. K66 is better. How is the replacement transmission This mower is a John Deere x320 with a tough torque K58 trans. In the field of gears, hydraulic equipments, transmissions, marine gears and mashine tools ,Kanzaki Kokyukoki Mfg. ggraham says: April 30, 2021 at 7:39 pm. K72, now we're really talking strong. Most manufacturer's used the K46 in the LT's The JD X324 to X360 use the K58 transmission. Sent from the MTF Free App The K58 is taking the place of the K62 transmission in Tuff Torq's line-up. Find Service Parts; K57 Manufacturer ID: K57. My x304 has the somewhat more robust K58, whereas the later ones use the K46 as did the X300 of all model years. There are several variants of each but they are all pretty much the same power output at the wheel. In my case (42" Craftsman T3200, which is an AYP unit) you have to block the back end of the mower off the ground, block the K46 to remove the wheels, fish out the free wheel lever, unbolt the K46 from the frame and as you lower it out you will have to remove the belt up and over the fan. options for a Serviceable filter—this transaxle is ready to K58 The K58 ig the a riding to The XO adds external hydraulic outlets and heavier axles to the available in the the line. Joined Dec 12, 2018 Messages 107 Location The next step up, the X380 has the K58 transaxle which I understand to be a significant step up in durability. The k66 is the start of what most consider ground This is the introduction of IHT Transaxle series K (K46, K57, K58, K62, K66, K72). The K58 uses the same envelope of the K46 with the characteristics of both the K46 and K62. 2, pending clarification of the tire size vs gear ratio question. There is no comparison to a 1984 Snapper and a new LT with a K46/K57. The Cub of course has more bang for buck, the Husq is a bit steeper than the JD X350 but has . Reactions: PJR832, raco232 and BigJim55. Click to expand Deere has actually used the K91 since the 425 through the 455 and continues to use it through the present X700 Signature series. The Tuff Torq K66 which has literally Twice the rated torq is the recommended upgrade from a K46 k46 and k57 k58 are pretty much the same, all better than a k40 depending on your year and frame, it is possible to go all the way up to a k66 , your mower is very light weight build, and for about the same money as this Most lawn tractors use the k46 or k58. I have read most of the threads on this subject. A K46 wouldn't make it to 200 hours on your property I was going to recommend Cub, but with their new XT2 line up, you need to spend $3,800 to move up from the K46 to K58 and $4,100 for the K62. The K46 is a popular hydrostatic transmission used in many residential lawn tractors and garden tractors. . TZ-450 . K57 and K58 are better (K58 substantially so). And then I went down the rabbit hole of reading about the K46 transmission. I've heard of that transmission in a husqqvarna (can't spell) and the guy had an electric actuator sleeve hitch, he put a lot of money into it. It also The X370 has a serviceable K-57 transmission ans the X380 has a K-58 transmission that is not serviceable. It offers smooth operation and reliable performance and is designed for light- to medium-duty applications. The biggest difference to me is the K46 vs K58 transmission. If your application is a little more heavy duty, or calls for secondary hydraulic support, the K57 may be just what you’re looking for. On the 2015 & the 2016 models of the Craftsman Pro Series model # 20442 , 46 “, 24hp Kohler engine, what # is the current transmission on this model # 20442 ? Correct me if I’m wrong , you stated that this model had a Are K46 transmissions good? The Hydro-Gear K46 is a decent mid-grade transmission for basic mowing needs. There are no generic K46’s. Save Share Deere has addressed the issue, X330 is the answer. IHT Transaxle series K (K46, K57, K58, K62, K66, K72)｜Hydraulic Equipments,Transmissions and Marine Gears｜Products｜Kanzaki Kokyukoki Mfg. if the price is the 2007 John Deere X304 (w/K58, Single-Bar Front Bumper, & Mulch Cover) JD 17p Poly Cart Those gearsets are the only difference between any K46/T40 transaxle, other than axles and the option for the limited slip differential. Tuff Torq makes over 10 variants of both the K57 and K58 transmissions. Dec 18, 2018 / Info About K46 Thru K72 Transaxles. Then K46, still for lawn tractors. K66: Installs a hydraulic pressure takeoff mechanism to the K62; There is not a lot of difference between the K46 and the K51 from what I have heard. K574 . David Eller After selling over 350 K66 Upgrade Kits for failed transaxles including K46's AND K58's, failed primarily because the tractors were used beyond the capability they were designed for, I strongly recommend the K72 powered X500. However on the Deere website it says its a kanzaki k46 transaxle. Help me decide which one is the best tractor? It is only 200 dollars difference in price. , Ltd. Hello, K46 is a transmission line that Tuff Torq produces and K46BE is a specific version of the K46 line. JD is not the only company that used the K46. The K46 is be far and above the most common turf torque you are going to see out there with a millions of them running strong for years. K66 . This transmission will handle mowing slopes, pulling larger yard carts, and lawn rollers. This mower is a John Deere x320 The torque that is actually applied to the rear axle depends on the gear ratio which, for the K46 appears to be 28. Tuff Torq® K51 Transaxle Axle Torque Output: Someone wrote about a replacement recently as I recall. The higher model XT1 for $3,100 has a K58. Some are serviceable and some are not. That reduces wear and heat versus a tranny without one (a K46 relies on suction only to fill the pump/motor). One of the things John Deere did do when they downgraded the X370 from K58 to K57 is they used Heat-treated Steel gears, instead of the powered metal gears found in most K46 and K57 products. increasing life of the transaxle. k46 and k57 k58 are pretty much the same, all better than a k40 depending on your year and frame, it is possible to go all the way up to a k66 , your mower is very light weight build, and for about the same money as this The X300 was introduced in 2006 to replaced the LT and LX lines, so the K58 has only been on the market since then. The LT line used the K46, while the LX line used the K62. The K66 is a heavy-duty hydrostatic transmission suitable for larger lawn tractors and garden tractors. Looks like the BDU-10 is comparable to the K58 and the G730 is between the K66 and K72 . Although the K58 has similar physical size & shape of the K46 it is a stronger transaxle (~27% stronger) than the K46. IHT Transaxle series K (K46, K57, K58, K62, K66, K72)?Hydraulic Equipment,Transmissions and Marine Gears?Products?Kanzaki Kokyukoki Mfg. Thread Starter #2 . This is the “standard” transmission for lawn tractors with 42-50 inch decks and 18-20 inch rear tires. BTW, the gearsets are interchangeable so it is possible to change the ratio of a transaxle. Check out my other mower transmission videos on th How to install a riding mower transmission. The K57 has some more features then the K46. I am frequently asked if the K58 is better than the K46. KTM-10 . K62: Simple basic model. Reply. I would go for the X370. I don't recall older 2 models being that much for a beefier trans. That is quite a bit more than even the K51 you had before. First, does anybody know if the K58 is serviceable on these tractors and second, is the GX50 worth the premium for that transmission and the couple of XT2 comforts it has? I looked around and decided to upgrade it to the K58. Last winter after reading these threads I bought a new Tuff Torq transaxle for $750. drive Capable. A lot of people are very vocal about them being weak because they don't handle hills Is a K57 really any better equipped to stand up to mowing small slopes such as the one described better than a K46? And on that token is a K58 (such as in the X320) REALLY The K46 are only rated to pull around 350lbs and the mower most likely allready weighs that much without the operator. K62 . I can not decide which one to buy? I had a John Deere K46 and it was junk, lasted 200 hours. So why does the K46 have problems? 2012 2720 -- 200CX Loader -- 54" Quick Attach Snow Blower -- Frontier LR5060 Rake -- Land Pride RB1660 Blade (Hydraulic Angle) -- Artillian 42" Forks -- Ken's BOGH -- 2013 X500/48 for mowing duties What is the difference between a K46 and a K46BE. Most tractors sold at the box stores are going to have the K46, or hydro gear equivalent. I have about 2 acres and some of it has hills. This powerful unit has many different configurations that have been developed to handle the At levels above the the light duties such as the K46, the tuff-torqs at the same ratings seem to hold up a bit better. 4WD K914 X575 through X748 shift-able 4WD K58 . It appears on this site, the k46 transaxle is dogged bad as the weak link and everyone mentions its a tufftorq k46. The X300 Model can fit the following K46,K57, K58, K62, K66 & K72 The K57 has been a very reliable transmission for Simplicity, They have used it for years in the Simplicity Broadmoor and still use it In there 2 Lower Cost Broadmoor's to choose between K46 and K57 is like asking to choose between the Ford F150 and F250. SPECIFICATIONS Transaxle: Type. In my opinion, it is only marginally better. The K58 has 1" axle shafts vs 3/4" axles on K46. Co. K46: Simple basic model; K57: Installs a charge pump to the K46 for higher HST efficiency and longer life; K58: Premium model with higher load capacity from K57; Models for heavy-load. First off a K58 will outlast life of the rest of tractor in most cases. But it is also a big jump in price and is really outside my budget. that have a K58 and K66, respectively. Honestly if you have hilly property and are looking for long term durability- I'd move up to next in line kubota with Hydro-Gear ® G730, or John Deere X380 ( K58) other option is for price of either of them new you can probably get late model ( lightly used) X500 series tractor that would last Tuff Torq K46. The K62 is better than the K46 and K57 and K58, but not as good as the K66 or K72 or K72. Hopefully it's upgraded to the stronger machine cut stronger transaxle (~27% stronger) than the K46. Commonly used in Lawn/Yard Tractors. K58. It provides capable performance thanks to the variable speed hydrostatic drive. So I bought a John Deere x300 after reading alot of great reviews online before joining this site. OP . The K58 is rated at 217 lb-ft continuous. Simplicity use's the K46 in there Regent and in there clone brands as well. And in the ~>$8k machines, you get to K92. The K58 is equipped with a charge pump. It is used in more lawn tractors than any other transmission. K62 is what I would call entry-level garden tractor, and seems worse than K58. Commonly used in Garden Tractors the odd fact is the K46 and "serviceable" K58 use the exact same pump/motor valve parts (#14 and #15 below). TZT7 Type II . A 58 is fine. Thanks!!! Yes, many have towed with K46's and alike without fail, but add the slightest grade or overloaded cart and the work that the transmission must do increases exponentially causing excessive heat and premature transmission Hope someone can help me with this one. The Kubota T2290 - tranny has similar torque to K46/k57- it has 3/4 inch axle. Tuff Torq K66. So you need to decide how much work you want to put into it. If the Snapper lasted 20 years on that slope I would only expect a K57 to last maybe 5 years if you are lucky. The Hydro-Gears having more pump/motor issues than tuff-torq yet they have less issues with the gears and differential than tuff-torq. 04 (20" tire) and for the 0310-0510 appears to be 22. pordx gpbet vfkelg ampfn crk rsr ubwyit ivz ldbmg fnm